February 12, 2019

Regnum Christi Spirituality Center Ask a Priest

“Ask a Priest: What If Marian Devotion Seems Too Much?”

Q: My husband and I are Catholic and converted from Protestantism. We have been Catholic for years but still struggle with all the attention Mary receives. To us she receives more prayers, attention, devotion, processions and obedience than Jesus, which to us still after all these years is worship and not mere veneration. We were going to go to the Orthodox but don’t want to start the church-bouncing thing again, and believe in the basics of the Catholic Church which no other but the Orthodox teach; however, we decided to stay at the Catholic Church. We went to confession (I didn’t mention that I had had problems with Mary and the constant attention to her over God). For penance the priest told me to ask Mary to pardon my sins and then say five Hail Mary’s. I tried to do this penance and felt so spiritually dirty. Why is Mary able to forgive sins? Why was I ask to do this? Is there another explanation I have missed? As is, I had been struggling to go to church because of Mary, and now I never want to go back, not to any church. – M.

Answered by Fr. Edward McIlmail, LC A: I understand the difficulty you are describing. I have a priest friend who is also a convert from Protestantism, and he tells me that people’s exaggerations of Marian devotion were a stumbling block for him even after years of being a Catholic. I hope that a few distinctions and observations can help you in this area. First of all, it’s important to remember that from the perspective of Catholic doctrine (not the practice of individual Catholics), true devotion to Mary always leads us closer to her Son. It is also true that some people can exaggerate Marian devotion if it diverts their attention from Christ as the center of our Catholic faith. But these cases of exaggeration are anomalies — they aren’t the intention of the Church. The Church gives a revered but balanced place to Our Lady in the history of salvation and the work of redemption. Here is an official expression of how the Church sees Marian devotion: “There is but one Mediator as we know from the words of the apostle, ‘for there is one God and one mediator of God and men, the man Christ Jesus, who gave himself a redemption for all.’ The maternal duty of Mary toward men in no wise obscures or diminishes this unique mediation of Christ, but rather shows His power. For all the salvific influence of the Blessed Virgin on men originates, not from some inner necessity, but from the divine pleasure. It flows forth from the superabundance of the merits of Christ, rests on His mediation, depends entirely on it and draws all its power from it. In no way does it impede, but rather does it foster the immediate union of the faithful with Christ” (Lumen Gentium, No. 60). Notice how this teaching recognizes that God chose to involve Mary in the history of salvation in a special way, but her special role flows from (and leads back to) Jesus. Any Catholic who begins to worship Mary as if she were a goddess, or who seeks to obtain grace from her as if she were the origin of that grace, is making a mistake. Mary is important only because Jesus is much, much more important. Think, for example, about the highest form of worship in the Church, the Mass. It is extremely Christ-centered, as it is his sacrifice of himself to God the Father for the redemption of the world. As for the penance you received: Perhaps the priest in his zeal misspoke when he implied that Mary would be the one to forgive you. It is always God who forgives us in the sacrament. Mary cannot forgive sins; only God can do that. I doubt that the priest meant to say anything that could be heretical — after all, he absolves “in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit.” He was probably just trying to encourage you in your relationship with Mary. Perhaps the solution is all this is to familiarize yourself more with what the Church actually teaches about Mary and Marian devotion. She has an important place in God’s plan; through her the Second Person of the Trinity took on human nature and was born a man. It is significant, too, that from the cross Jesus entrusted her to John and the Church, “Behold, your mother” (John 19:27). The key thing is not to dismiss entirely the role of Mary simply because some folks might seem to take things to an unhealthy extreme. You could read up on Mary in the Catechism, starting at No. 963. Also helpful is a wonderful book by a convert to Catholicism, called Hail, Holy Queen, which explores the scriptural roots of true Marian devotion. Here at RC Spirituality we have also put together some retreat guides on Mary, showing that she can be for us an inspiration and an example in our following of Christ. See, for instance, “Welcoming the Word: A Retreat Guide on the Annunciation.” Having a healthy view of Our Lady will help you in your Catholic faith and in your efforts to come closer to our Lord, as it has helped so many saints through the centuries, such as Pope St. John Paul II. And could help you from the temptation to start “church-bouncing” again. That is the last thing you want to do. You want to be careful, too, because the devil would like to sow seeds of doubt about the Church in you, especially after your journey over the years. In the meantime stay focused on Jesus in the Eucharist and in Scripture. Mary would certainly approve of that. After all, her last words in Scripture are, “Do whatever He [Jesus] tells you” (John 2:5).  

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Fr. Robert Presutti, LC: Helping Others Learn Spiritual Direction

Divine Mercy University and Regnum Christi are teaming up to respond to the need for spiritual directors in the Church. Fr. Robert Presutti, LC, PhD,  is heading the initiative.

Fr. Presutti teaches at Divine Mercy University and has been involved in higher education for a number of years. He leads a team of 12 experts in psychology, Catholic spirituality, and spiritual direction, who will be offering the course. He responded to questions via email.

What is the history of training spiritual directors in Regnum Christi? How did you get involved?

Fr, Robert: The great importance of spiritual direction in our lives and for our apostolates is no secret.  With the growth of Regnum Christi in North America, it became clear that we needed to expand the opportunities for spiritual direction for our own and for those who benefit from our work. This meant training more spiritual directors or guides. Over the years, various localities made an effort to do so and, most notably, spiritual director courses were organized for the territory at Our Lady of Bethesda Retreat Center in the Washington, DC, metro area. These courses were spearheaded by Fr. John Hopkins and involved the active collaboration of lay and consecrated members and other Legionaries. For years, this program at Bethesda — subsequently replicated in various locations and furthered by the involvement of the RC Spirituality — yielded many good and holy fruits, but it became clear that the opportunity for training needed to extend further. This is where DMU came in.

You mentioned this was a partnership between Divine Mercy and Regnum Christi. How does that partnership work? What does each side provide?

DMU has a tradition of developing rigorous academic programs, both onsite and online. Students literally from around the world participate in DMU’s online programs, and DMU has become known in both Catholic and non-Catholic communities. Naturally, the question arose: is there an opportunity to use DMU’s experience to create a globally-accessible spiritual directors program in conjunction with Regnum Christi in North America? The result would meet the need for training spiritual directors not only for Regnum Christi, but for anyone who wanted to explore this ministry. In this partnership, DMU provides the pedagogical and academic expertise and infrastructure, while Regnum Christi provides a charism that deeply informs the program.

How do you think this program can help Regnum Christi members? Why might they get this certificate?

This program can help Regnum Christi members in various ways. For  those with the call to become spiritual directors, this program will provide the requisite theological background, human skills training, and supervision to begin a fruitful exercise of this ministry or apostolate. For others, some of the courses might become an opportunity for either spiritual deepening or learning human interpersonal skills for apostolates besides spiritual direction.

How might this program compare to other programs out there teaching spiritual direction?

This program is fully online, with two four-day residencies. This makes it widely accessible. Additionally, some distinguishing features include the theological content: this program is set very strongly in the wonderful tradition of Catholic Christian spiritual theology from the time of the Fathers of the Church to present day authors, highlighted by those who are recognized as “doctors” of the spiritual life by the Church. A second distinguishing feature is the interpersonal skills training: this program will draw from the DMU experience of teaching solid interpersonal skills for online students, which has yielded good fruit in the clinical programs offered by DMU (such as the online MS in Counseling degree). Thirdly, this program will provide supervision to students as they begin exercising as spiritual directors, toward the middle and end of the program. As one learns supervision, we can say that “quality” of spiritual direction can increase.

The website says the program includes six online courses offered in eight-week modules, two onsite residences, and a practicum. What kind of time and monetary commitment might a person be putting in to fulfill those requirements?

The courses are $750 each, and residencies are $1000 each.

For the courses, students should expect to work on average five to eight hours weekly when the courses are offered.

For the residencies, students can expect an intensive all-day schedule during their time.

How can people get more information or register?

Please go to www.sdc-divinemercy.org or divinemercy.edu/divine-mercy-university-launches-spiritual-direction-certificate-program.

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Alex Kucera

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Alex Kucera has lived in Atlanta, GA, for the last 46 years. He is one of 9 children, married to his wife Karmen, and has 3 girls, one grandson, and a granddaughter on the way. Alex joined Regnum Christi in 2007. Out of the gate, he joined the Helping Hands Medical Missions apostolate and is still participating today with the Ghana Friendship Mission.

In 2009, Alex was asked to be the Atlanta RC Renewal Coordinator for the Atlanta Locality to help the RC members with the RC renewal process. Alex became a Group Leader in 2012 for four of the Atlanta Men’s Section Teams and continues today. Running in parallel, in 2013, Alex became a Team Leader and shepherded a large team of good men.

Alex was honored to be the Atlanta Mission Coordinator between 2010 to 2022 (12 years), coordinating 5-8 Holy Week Mission teams across Georgia. He also created and coordinated missions at a parish in Athens, GA, for 9 years. Alex continues to coordinate Holy Week Missions, Advent Missions, and Monthly missions at Good Shepherd Catholic Church in Cumming, GA.

From 2016 to 2022, Alex also served as the Men’s Section Assistant in Atlanta. He loved working with the Men’s Section Director, the Legionaries, Consecrated, and Women’s Section leadership teams.

Alex is exceptionally grateful to the Legionaries, Consecrated, and many RC members who he’s journeyed shoulder to shoulder, growing his relationship with Christ and others along the way. He knows that there is only one way, that’s Christ’s Way, with others!